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Do Stargate and Independence Day Need Sequels?

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I can tell you that Roland and I have been working together for the first time in 11 years and we’re very excited about the idea of doing it. Whether or not we can make this happen, if we can get all the pieces to come together, that’s gonna be challenging. But creatively, for the very first time since we did the original, I feel we have a worthy concept, a worthy path to go. We resisted doing the sequel for years because we still wanted to honour the first one. The first one gave us all careers, and we really love that movie and loved the experience. We didn’t want to make a movie because it was financially a good idea, we only wanted to do it when we had an idea and a concept that creatively felt like it honoured the first one – that it felt like an organic sequel as opposed to ‘let’s just go make some more money.’ I feel like we got it. I think it took a long time, but I feel like we finally got something that really feels like, ‘that’s worth seeing as a sequel to Independence Day.’

This was Dean Devlin’s comments on the plans for an Independence Day sequel while being interviewed by Heat Vision about his TV series Leverage, and he seems very excited to be working with co-creator Roland Emmerich once again. This news can be taken as either good or bad depending on your feelings about the first movie. So let’s ask ourselves three questions.

Does it really need a sequel?

No, not in my opinion anyway. The first movie was great. Special effects were amazing, the acting was good and the mix of comedy and action was perfect. As was the story, and that is where my problem lies with the planned sequel. The entire story was there, aliens attack, we get our ass kicked, we find a way to fight back, we kick their ass, the end. The assumption was that once we found a way to fight back it was a forgone conclusion that we won and began to rebuild. There were even shots at the end of the movie of ships being taken out all over the world. Job done. What more needs to be told? Also, would all follow up movies be set on the 4th July seeing as how that was what gave the film its title in the first place?

Have they waited too long?

Yes. Now, in the above quote Devlin talks about not wanting to do a sequel for sequel’s sake but waiting until it was just about the story rather than it being a money making exercise. While this news is great, as it can ruin a franchise when you can tell the second film was made purely because of the success of the first, where can they go? The last we heard about the plans for more Independence Days (it was a planned trilogy) it was intended for the follow up movies to take place straight after the first. If this is still the case maybe waiting 16 years, respect for the first movie taken in to account, is way too long. Surly this plan, if it still stands, would require a full new cast, thus further spoiling the appeal and all around goodness of the first film.

Do fans want another movie?

No. After trolling through endless comments on a number of sites I manage to find a total of 6 positive comments about another Independence Day and all of those had big ‘Ifs’.

So all in all it seems pretty pointless. That said, plenty of fans, including me, would go and see a follow up movie purely out of curiosity. So it would appear that it serves some purpose.

Now, in other news………..

stargate

Stargate has always had this empty hole. When we made the first one, we always intended on doing part two and three, and we were prevented for years. And our hope is that we can get another chance at Stargate and tell the entire story we wanted to tell.

That’s right everyone, Devlin and Emmerich are also the pair behind the Stargate movie and are planning more of those too. But, before we get started on that, do you think the ‘empty hole’ pun was intentional, seeing as the Stargate is essentially an empty hole? But, anyway, three questions.

Does it really need a sequel?

No. Stargate has become a massive franchise and far surpassed the movie. The off-shoot TV series, including SG1, Atlantis and Stargate Universe, have gone further than any amount of sequel movies could ever hope. SG1 even continued from where the movie left off, making a movie sequel even more unnecessary. But, with so little known about Devlin’s plans for Stargate, maybe there is room for a sequel. With the cancellation of SGU after just one season then a follow up and finish off movie/movies would be very well received, so do this instead.

Have they waited too long?

Yes. Very much like the above comments on Independence Day if the intention was to make a follow up to the original 1994 movie then a full new cast would be in order. Even if they were to use the cast from SG1, as would be a more logical approach, it has been off the air since 2007. The cast have all moved on to different things and Cornel O’Neill (Richard Dean Anderson) looked proper fat when he appeared in a few episodes of SGU.

Do fans want a sequel?

Yes and no. With so little known about the plans for Stargate as a movie franchise it is hard for fans to comment. There is plenty of confusion about Devlin’s ‘empty hole’ comment. It’s as if the guy has missed the past 15 years of Stargate goodness. What you can gain from fan reaction is that there is no point in a sequel to the original movie, which is what the above statement does seem to allude too.

So to sum up, you are done boys. Move on.

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